----- Original Message -----

From: Debbi

To: 'The New Improved Less Lame List'

Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:24 PM

Subject: RE: [ Creed Discuss ] How the FUCK is it that I ended up into Creed

But I'll tell you this much - just as the stolen apple tastes so good,
this music sounds GREAT!

Right, DAVE?

-----Original Message-----
From: Debbi [mailto:debbir@lafornara.com]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:23 PM
To: 'The New Improved Less Lame List'
Subject: RE: [ Creed Discuss ] How the FUCK is it that I ended up into
Creed


This loser bought the line "I don't know who sent them, it was an
anonymous hotmail or yahoo account"

Um, ok!

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Earles [mailto:earles@attbi.com]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:17 PM
To: The New Improved Less Lame List
Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] How the FUCK is it that I ended up into
Creed


I find it absolutely laughable that they were satisfied by you sending
them "the files".  Shows how much they know about the technology...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Debbi" <debbir@lafornara.com>
To: "'The New Improved Less Lame List'" <creed-discuss@debbir.com>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:12 PM
Subject: RE: [ Creed Discuss ] How the FUCK is it that I ended up into
Creed


> They wanted the original copies of the files which died with that hard

> drive literally the day after the phone call.  I'd already ripped the
> files to mp3 though.  I told them to jam it unless they agreed to
> leave me alone.  There was no way I was going to "cooperate" with them

> only to find out that it was all being used as evidence against ME
>
> Blah blah blah consulting with IP attorney who basically told me that
> if I shut down the ftp server, I'd pretty much make their day and
> they'd do one of two things - either thank me for being so cooperative

> or they'd ignore me and hope that I'd keep worrying that they were
> coming after me at any moment.  They did the latter.
>
> They sent me a letter several weeks later that basically said that if
> I agreed to send the files and as long as they didn't hear or find out

> that I was still distributing the music they'd leave me along.  So I
> sent them a copy of the mp3s (*a* copy, not *the* copy) and haven't
> heard from them since.
>
> NO idea how they found out or why they were under the impression that
> I had some kind of massive "manufacturing" deal going on.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Earles [mailto:earles@attbi.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:02 PM
> To: The New Improved Less Lame List
> Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] How the FUCK is it that I ended up into

> Creed
>
>
> That still begs the question of how they found out about it.  I don't
> *THINK* that comes up in a web search. Did they do anything besides
> demand your hard drive? And did you ever get it back? I don't recall
> there being an ending to this story...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Debbi" <debbir@lafornara.com>
> To: "'The New Improved Less Lame List'" <creed-discuss@debbir.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 8:25 PM
> Subject: RE: [ Creed Discuss ] How the FUCK is it that I ended up into

> Creed
>
>
> > It was the attorney for Fishco.  Hootie records on atlantic so
> > there's
>
> > some deep pockets, there.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe Earles [mailto:earles@attbi.com]
> > Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 5:18 PM
> > To: The New Improved Less Lame List
> > Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] How the FUCK is it that I ended up
> > into
>
> > Creed
> >
> >
> > I'm still baffled as to how they found out about it. Did you mention

> > it on the Lame List? I'll bet that Jim ratted you out...
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Debbi" <debbir@lafornara.com>
> > To: "'The New Improved Less Lame List'" <creed-discuss@debbir.com>
> > Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 8:12 PM
> > Subject: RE: [ Creed Discuss ] How the FUCK is it that I ended up
> > into
>
> > Creed
> >
> >
> > > I'd offer them up but I'm quite sick of getting phone calls from
> > > record company lawyers at 8 am threatening to sic the FBI on me
> > > for intrastate copyright violations, thankyewverymuch.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: * Kate * [mailto:sky65@hotmail.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 5:11 PM
> > > To: creed-discuss@debbir.com
> > > Subject: RE: [ Creed Discuss ] How the FUCK is it that I ended up
> > > into
> >
> > > Creed
> > >
> > >
> > > you weren't kidding about it being expensive (not that I thought
> > > you
> > > were):
> > >
> > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=893167850
> > >
> > > that's the only one I could find on ebay, it's currently at $78
> > > and there are 2 days left in the auction.  Damn.
> > >
> > > So, anyone have the mp3's?  :)
> > >
> > > -Kate
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "But even though my world was unrecognizable and upside-down,
> > > there was one thing that remained the same. *You* were my friend,
> > > and you told me the truth.  Even when the world was falling apart,

> > > you were my
> >
> > > constant...my
> > >
> > > touchstone."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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